All politics and abuse aside, if the reality is that Imane Khelif really does have a difference of sex development such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%CE%B1-Reductase_2_deficiency , i.e. was born superficially looking female, may have been raised (socialised) as female, but has working internal testes that produce male levels of testosterone, had a male puberty and now has a fully masculine, adult male body, would your position in this change at all?
i.e. would Imane's gold win still be valid?
The position of gender critical feminists is that someone's personal beliefs about themselves don't matter one jot (that's why they're fine with women who claim to be "non-binary" or "trans men" competing against women, as long as they're not injecting testosterone, even if they find those personal beliefs somewhat ridiculous).
It's whether sports should be sex segregated or not, and from the evidence:
2. the IBA's tests that rejected Imane from competing previously on account of having XY chromosomes
3. the footage of the fights
it looks like Imane Khelif may well have had a male puberty and could be biologically male, despite having a DSD. Personal beliefs should not matter when it comes to sport.
You and your friends have had extremely difficult and unpleasant experiences with certain people and groups online but I and many others have nothing to do with that, and believe everything above still stands on its own regardless of politics and online abuse.
All politics and abuse aside, if the reality is that Imane Khelif really does have a difference of sex development such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5%CE%B1-Reductase_2_deficiency , i.e. was born superficially looking female, may have been raised (socialised) as female, but has working internal testes that produce male levels of testosterone, had a male puberty and now has a fully masculine, adult male body, would your position in this change at all?
i.e. would Imane's gold win still be valid?
The position of gender critical feminists is that someone's personal beliefs about themselves don't matter one jot (that's why they're fine with women who claim to be "non-binary" or "trans men" competing against women, as long as they're not injecting testosterone, even if they find those personal beliefs somewhat ridiculous).
It's whether sports should be sex segregated or not, and from the evidence:
1. interviews with their coach ( https://archive.is/ALwjQ )
2. the IBA's tests that rejected Imane from competing previously on account of having XY chromosomes
3. the footage of the fights
it looks like Imane Khelif may well have had a male puberty and could be biologically male, despite having a DSD. Personal beliefs should not matter when it comes to sport.
You and your friends have had extremely difficult and unpleasant experiences with certain people and groups online but I and many others have nothing to do with that, and believe everything above still stands on its own regardless of politics and online abuse.